4Talent Awards entry criteria

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Full Terms & Conditions for the 4Talent Awards are here, and you must accept these before entering.

The main restriction is that all entrants must be 30 or under on 31/12/2008, and a resident of the UK.

These are ‘new talent’ awards, and while we fully accept that anyone could come fresh to a creative profession when considerably older than 30, capping entries with an upper age limit helps us to compare them as fairly as possible.

There’s no minimum age limit, but you’ll be judged on track record so will need to have some quality work to show us! Scroll down for full criteria.

 

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PLEASE NOTE: Applications are now closed. Good luck to all entrants; the winners will be notified by 31 October.

 

I have no c.v for my drama work and have little material but Im afraid that this will weaken my chances…what could i do and how? (i dont know where to get an appropriate picture from, i have no means financially.

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@ADEBUKOLA: Would it be Dramatic Performance that you’d enter?

We definitely need a visual representation of your work in order to judge it, however if you have performances coming up we could accept digital camera or even at a push mobile phone camera footage, if you have one or could borrow one from a friend. Does this help?

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Would writing (poetry, prose, travel writing etc) be acceptable?
I obviously have work to support this as well as a website.
I try to paint a picture of places I’ve visited and that have had an impact on me, my focus largely being home and London in particular.

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@David Constable:

Yes these areas are covered in the awards, travel writing would come under the journalism category and poetry and prose would be the wildcard - just decide which award category you would like to enter.

Thanks
Helen

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I notice that there is no minimum age limit, so it seems fine for 4 Talent to compare work of a 12 year old to that of a 30 year old but not that of a 18 years old and 31 year old… Seems a tad unfair and not thought through don’t you think!!

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@Susan Davies:

Thanks again for your input - please see my previous comment as well on this.

You draw attention to the lack of minimum age limit, as you will also have noticed we stipulate that entrants will be judged on track record and the quality of their work, and so the likelihood of a 12-year-old having sufficient experience to be seriously considered is relatively slim.

However given that these are new talent Awards we’re not ruling out the possibility of someone having talent beyond their years - a 16-year-old film-maker already showing great potential, say, or a 17-year-old composer already shining in their field. As ones to watch, entrants are judged based on their potential for the future as well as the current quality of their work.

Arguably, an 18-year-old and a 31-year-old could submit work of identical quality - but age could be a factor in judging future potential. The age limit is not so much about quality of work necessarily, but about amount of accumulated experience in the industry.

Hopefully this makes sense.

Cheers
Nick

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A quick question - there is the category for people who excel in two or more fields, but can you conversely enter several fields seperately??

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@Amelia: You can only enter one category - if you work in more than one creative field enter the multi-talented category.
Thanks, Helen

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I have to sympathise with Susan regarding age limitations. As you yourself have admitted this is not a ‘young talent’ opportunity, but a ‘new talent’ opportunity.

I myself and 31 years of age and, due to personal circumstances, am at the beginning of a career change. I would love the opportunity to submit some of my shots for judging at this embrionic stage of my career.

I believe that, in this time of diversity and equal opportunities, age should not be an issue here. Rather the amount of time already spent in the industry should be a qualifying factor as both a 16 year old and a 40 year old may have equal amounts of experience, talent and potential within their chosen discipline.

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@Teresa Moody: Thanks for the comments, we’ll take them all on board for 2009.

As we point out above, we fully accept that anyone could come fresh to a creative profession when considerably older than 30, but capping entries with an upper age limit helps us to compare them as fairly as possible.

When you say ’shots’, I take it you’re a photographer? As you may know we also run a bi-annual print magazine and work with a wide range of new photographers and illustrators (of all ages), I’d suggest you send some example shots through to us: see the contributors page for more details.

Thanks
Nick

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I’m too young to have a CV. What do I do? Will a reference be enough?

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I’m 15 and am looking to enter in either the Dramatic Performance category or the Presenting category.

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@Denbigh: OK, you will need to submit a reference along with clippings / examples of your work. Your CV can be brief, it should just show your educational experience along with details of the projects you have worked on.

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Hi, I write short stories, poems and music. Could I enter under the wildcard option? Thanks.

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@Grant: Yes, the Wildcard category is open to any creative disciplines that don’t fit within the other specified categories, including short fiction and poetry. You may alternatively like to enter the Music category - it’s up to you - but the stories and poetry won’t be considered for this.

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I love drama, im not as good as it as people in my class but i would like to enter this category but i dont really understand what to send off also i want to enter the photography category im 15 could you give me some information please

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Hello there.
Just a quick one for you…

I wirte in partnership with a friend of mine. I am 28 and he is 32. I figure he is too old to enter but was wondering if you could take an average for the age limit? (bringing us both to 30)

We have several scripts and pieces of work and have always worked together. I wouldn’t like to think that the age limit on here would mean that, as a unit, we could not enter.

Just wondered what the rules were on this? Do I have to delete his name from all the work and take all the glory for myself?

Many thanks
Jamie

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How should I structure my showreel? Should each clip have an introductory frame with the name and date of the performance of should it just be a continuous sequence only differentiated by fades?

Thank you very much for your help/

Kind Regards,

Carl Harvey

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@Carl Harvey: Carl - it is completely up to you how you structure your showreel - just make it clear what your role was in the work. Thanks, Helen

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Hey

I’m a puppet film maker and I’m going to enter, I’m not sure which category would suit me best, I pretty much make everything in my films and get Puppeteers in to make the film. I’ve just started experiments with stop motion animation in my live films, can I go in under animation or would Directing be better?

Thanks for your help!

Richard
http://www.muckypuppets.blogspot.com

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@MansfieldRichard: If you have more of a proven history in film-making, I would advise you to enter the directing category.

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Hi I would like to enter under the screen presenting category, I have done presenting on stage and things before but I have no recordings of those events. The only thing I have evidence of is of a radio show that I presented in a foreign language. Do I have to submit evidence of something I have done along with the newsreel I am making for this category? I don’t really have much evidence. Is this essential?

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@Jas: Hi Jas, in order for your work to be considered I am afraid the judges will need some visual evidence of you at work.

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I am a poet so would a referance from a litrary agent be a feesable referance?

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I am interested in sending something in for the music part, but what i would do would be totally different. Would a dnb mix with my mcin’ skills on it be allowed?

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You say there’s no lower age limit, but on the online form, the year only goes to 1994 and I was born in 1995.

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@Pearce: Yes that would be fine.

@Daniel: Yes, all types of music are allowed in this category.

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@Millie: We have amended the form to include 1995.

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I am elated to see artwork created by the young being accepted
Work I created when I was 15 recieved a standing ovation at the Edingborough Festival of Arts when I was 16 and several other artists wanted to meet the authour but I couldn’t get entry into the inns and hotels where subsiquent recitals were held because I was too young.
Creation of the internet as a source of communication has given everyone the freedom to communicate without predjudice, when you are able to overcome your age limit altogether I would be interested in entering.
Remember the internet is new to everyone, a shared experiance of all ages

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For the Comedy Scripts category, it says to send 3 scripts, does this mean 3 scripts of the same sitcom/sketch show? Or 3 completely separate scripts? So for example I could sent a script of a sitcom, a script of a sketch show and a script of a different sitcom…?

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@Martin: Hi, it means up to three separate scripts, so two sitcom ideas and a sketch show would be perfect.

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What if I can’t get any reference? I haven’t shown any of my illustrations to anyone. By the way which category does illustration go in?

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I do illustration and fashion design. I don’t make any of these garments cuz I don’t have the resources but will be acceptable to enter my illustrations and designs on paper as they are?

And I don’t study fashion at school yet, just art. and I only study fashion through exhibitions tv magazines etc. I just do it as a hobby, so I don’t really have anyone to get a reference from like a client. Who else would be suitable to give a reference?

Sorry for such a long question lol

Thankyou

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@Marmalade: Illustration would be a Wildcard entry. For a reference, this should be an informed person who appreciates your work - ideally a client or employer, but it could be a fellow creative or a Uni tutor, for example.

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@Ness: Designs on paper would be fine. I’d suggest an art tutor would make a suitable reference. Cheers

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Hi, just wanted to know if a website/ online link etc was absolutely essential to enter? I was thinking of entering the dramatic writing catagory.

Also, the works I would submit are mostly scripts that I have had short-listed & long-listed in competitions and I am continually submitting the work to competitions - would this interfere with the entry criteria??
thanks

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@john doe: Hi, no a website is not essential. Your scripts sound fine - entering other competitions will not interfere with your entry.

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@john doe: Hi, no a website is not essential. Your scripts sound fine - entering other competitions will not interfere with your entry to the 4Talent Awards.

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Great thanks for your feedback

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I have a few reference-type comments on letters I have received. Can I submit these as a reference (with the writers’ permission obtained by phone, obviously) or do I have to have a specific reference written for 4Talent? I don’t have an agent to write a refence for me. I would have thought it better to have referential comments written by those ‘in the know’ than by, say, a work colleague.

Kim

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Hi
My name is Lisa and my talent is alternative/experimental photography and TV/ Film directing. After searching through the site i realized that the deadline is approaching real close, and a lot of my work is not at a standard of entering a competition just yet. I would like to know if contestants are being judge on their creative ability as a whole, or how good the product their selling is.

Thanks
Kind regards
Lisa

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@Kim: Hi yes, that’s fine - remember to put who the reference is from and what their relationship to you is.

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@Coffy: The judges will be looking at an individuals creative potential based on their work to date so you can still enter. If your work is still in progress, note this on your application and try and back it up with work you have already completed. The deadline is 29th August.

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Ageism is as bad as sexism or racism. Make the leap.

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@Helen Byrne:
Thank you very much, i do intend on entering…

Fingers crossed

Regards
Lisa

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I would just like some clarification on whether the copyright for any material submitted remains with the writer / artist? I couldn’t really see any mention of it in the Terms and Conditions.
Thanks!
Katie

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Is advertising for writers UNDER 30 years of age not illegal under the Age Discrimination Act. If not why not? Does the BBC have some sort of opt out clause from the Act? Would the BBC be allowed to advertise for only BLACK writers, or WHITE writers, or maybe only writers over the height of 5ft 8ins with a unshaven semi beard and tweed jacket to fit the image of the typical writer.

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Hi, Is there any minimum/maximum page limit on comedy scripts?

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@Kate: Hi there are no limits on the length of the scripts, make sure you include synopses for each script you submit.

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Hi. Regarding to your Comedy Scripts category, I would like to know whether the ‘up to three scripts’ when submitting is essential, because I have only written two episodes within my comedy series so far? I would like to just submit both episodes, as I will not have completed the third episode within the series when the deadline date comes. Is this okay or do I have to come up with a new separate idea/comedy series to make up the number of submissions to three?

As both episodes that I would like to submit are within the same comedy series, is this okay? As one of the requirements maybe being that each submission has to be of different ideas/concepts all together. Therefore leaving me now to come up with two or even, if it is the case from my first question, three different comedy series.

Thanks.

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hi - i assume that the copyright of any work submitted will be respected?

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@Roy: Hi, you don’t have to submit three scripts, two from the same series is absolutely fine. Thanks, Helen

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I am surprised that an equal opportunities corporation such as Channel 4 would sanction a competition which discriminates solely on the grounds of age. The competition calls for New talent, which can apply equally to an older writer, who may have come to writing later in life, as to a young person. I do not see how Just4talent would be able to tell the difference in age between two contributors, unless the age had been given to them.
Bearing in mind recent age discrimination legislation, I am not even sure this is legal. It is certainly worthy of investigation.

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I’m wondering, If I want to send my CV/Bio online rather than post, is there anything else I need to include such as more pictures or anything?

Thanks :)

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Nevermind about my above comment! I’m guessing if I’m entering the photography category, I enter 10 pictures. I think I’ll do it by post!

How do you know who’s posted stuff is who’s though? ie. Who’s online application form matches who’s posted stuff?

Thanks!

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@Eleanor: OK, make sure you tick the box that you’ll be sending stuff in the post so we can match it to your application.

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If referees would rather not send their comments to the applicants (us) to be written in to the online form, but would prefer to keep their 100-words confidential, could they send it separately to the above Birmingham address?

Would this present any problems in matching up the reference with the online form as well as the material posted by the applicant? And could we then write in the relevant box on the online form just a note to refer to a posted reference?

Or is it essential that the reference be physically typed in to the form?

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@Robbie: Hi, yes you can send it to the Birmingham address, just make it clear who the reference is for, what your relationship to them is and in which category they are entering. Thanks, Helen

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@Colin: Thanks for your input, as you will have seen from previous comments, several people have raised the issue of the age limit, citing very similar points to yours, and I’ve replied before in some detail on the matter. So please refer to my previous comments.

Channel 4 is confident that no Age Discrimination laws have been broken in any of its activities, including these Awards. From an editorial perspective, the 4Talent Awards are specifically devised for young persons, to encourage their development and contribution to creative media from a relatively early stage in their career. It is not discriminatory to make opportunities available to young people where those opportunities would not otherwise exist.

@Brian Brown: I’m a little confused as to why you think we’re the BBC, and confess I have no inside knowledge of their recruitment policies. But suffice to say, if you have concerns with BBC activities they should be raised with the BBC.

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i’d really like to try the acting or presenting catagory and feel i’d really enjoy it but i do not have any experience in either.I usually participate in fashion design or art and design in general and so this would put me in the wild-card catagory but would like to try something new.is experience neccessary?

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@monique geraghty: Hi, the judges will be looking at work you have produced as they need evidence of your talent in any particular field. I would suggest you enter the wildcard category but make sure you include all relevant supporting material - i.e. a CV, self-sell as well as clippings / examples of your work.

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I’m 19 and on my gap year at the moment - my C.V consists of….waitress, nanny, cleaner, barmaid, receptionist etc. I don’t think that’s really relevant to this competition. So instead of my ‘work’ C.V would it be more appropriate to include a C.V of my creative projects ?

Also I’m not sure whether to enter the Directing or Photography award - all my short films feature music that I don’t have the copyright for, so I guess that rules them out ?

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@Ella: Hi, yes you will need a CV of your creative work. You can still submit your short films - using commercial music in them is fine. However, if you were picked for an award then the films could not be used for any commercial purposes i.e. in the award winners showreel. Please note you can only enter one award.

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Hi,

Im just wondering - im a british citezin not living in uk. Can i still apply if i was interested, say, in the comedy part of the competition? I would really like to submit some material and have already entered the competition held by ‘Every1’s a Critic.’ If i cannot enter, are there any opportunities available to do with script writing and comedy/comedy sketches that i mightn’t be aware of?

Thanks

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Hi,

I’m applying for the comedy performance category but don’t have anyone, bar my family, to give me a reference. Is the reference an absolute requirement?